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In 1976, when I delivered the John Locke Lectures
at Oxford, I often spent time with Peter Strawson, and one day at lunch he made
a remark I have never been able to forget. He said, "Surely half the
pleasure of life is sardonic comment on the passing show". This blog
is devoted to comments, not all of them sardonic, on the passing philosophical
show.
Hilary Putnam
Reply to a Comment by Sanjit Chakraborty
Reply to a Comment by Sanjit Chakraborty
You write, "Like you, I
also agree that an expert has the comprehensive grasp of meaning (better understanding
of the extension of the term) whereas an ordinary person has a partial grasp of
meaning (e.g., of the term water)." But
that isn't "like me". I deny that an expert has a
more comprehensive grasp of the meaning of
water.
Yet I do not deny that an expert
(when the science is sufficiently mature) "has a better understanding of
the extension of the term".
The purpose of the post
you commented on was to explain why agreeing with you about the latter
does not require me to agree with you about the former. The reason is
that understanding the extension of a term is not, in the case of natural
kinds, linguistic knowledge at all. It is chemical, or
metallurgical, or physical knowledge, but not linguistic knowledge, although
the successful division of linguistic labor depends on some individuals
possessing it, and other speakers being properly linked to them.
Reply to a Comment by Nathaniel Baird
You write, “I recall you saying in response to Wright that both BIVs
(assuming they are referring to computer processes, or whatever) and non-BIVs
(when they are speaking about what BIVs refer to) are talking about the same
thing, but using different descriptions.
And so would you say that there is a fundamental problem in attempting to talk strictly about the "extensions," rather than the descriptions?”
And so would you say that there is a fundamental problem in attempting to talk strictly about the "extensions," rather than the descriptions?”
My answer is that we can talk
about gold and not only about descriptions of gold because we are causally
linked to gold in ways that facilitate both perception and cognition. You
continue, “Do we avoid skepticism by showing that the skeptic must be assuming
he/she can be referring to these extensions? What sense does it make to talk
about what-we-refer-to-out-in-the-world?”
And my answer is (1) that if “avoiding skepticism” means giving the
skeptic an answer that the skeptic
herself must accept, then that is something one shouldn’t try to do. Hume
was right about that one. But if it means showing that the skeptic doesn’t have an argument the
non-skeptic must accept, then I believe that can and should be done. (Hume missed that one.) My
Brain in A Vat [BIV] argument was part of doing that. And as for “What sense does it
make to talk about what-we-refer-to-out-in-the-world?” the answer, I repeat, is
that we can talk about gold and not only about descriptions of gold because we
are causally linked to gold in ways that facilitate both perception and
cognition. And I defend this claim simply by defending scientific realism. (See
“On Not Writing Off Scientific Realism” in Philosophy
in an Age of Science.)
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